Monday, September 01, 2025

a DIALECTIC: Ancient vs. Modern Ideologies\Knowledges.

 

 


 

 

 

 

 

 

 




a DIALECTIC:

 

Ancient

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Modern

 

Ideologies\Knowledges.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Reader,

 

 

Introduction.  The historical antithesis between ancient – especially ancient Mediterranean – philosophical proto-science, and modern science, even from its inception, as «Philosophiae Naturalis» [cf. Newton], is, we hold, primarily an opposition between modern, biased, one-sidedly ‘quantitativistic’ ideology-afflicted scientific knowledges, and ancient, biased, one-sidedly ‘qualitativistic’ ideology-afflicted scientific knowledges.

 

We see opportunities, given the present crisis in the historical development of ‘‘‘the human phenome’’’, for a dialectical synthesis of these two biased, one-sided versions of scientific knowledge, a combination that would weed-out much of the ideology-affliction of both categories of ‘ideologies\sciences’.

 

Our work is intended to contribute to the rigorous formation of this dialectical synthesis.

 

We name both of the opposing categories, as well as their sought synthesis category, including the epithet  ‘ideologies\sciences’.

 

This is because we do not expect that the battle against the contamination of consensus knowledge with ideological elements can be finally won, even via this synthesis. 

 

We expect that the effort to weed-out ideological adulterations from consensus knowledge will need to be a matter of continuing vigilance, and ongoing immanent critique, even when Terran humanity succeeds in achieving the political-ECONOMIC DEMOCRATIC Successor System to the Capitalist System, albeit we expect that then the mass of such adulteration will diminish. 

 

In the Domain-symbol for this dialectic, D = I\K, we use the “back-slash”, ‘\’, instead of the “forward-slash”, ‘/’, between the words “ideologies” and “knowledges”, because we hold that, as the historical self-development of humanity has proceeded, in the broad sweep of that history, knowledge has become increasingly dominant over ideology, and, if Terran humanity successfully navigates its looming ‘Meta-Darwinian Planetary Fitness Test’, we expect that this trend will continue, and will accelerate.

 

This dialectic, as depicted above, is pictured in ‘Marxian format’ [pictogramic elements are placed lower to register their greater abstractness; elements are placed higher to register their greater ‘thought-concreteness’/complexity/-determinateness].

 

This depiction above focuses on just one category-symbol term in our – recently revised, 32-term – dialectical categorial progression for the extended historical dialectic of Terran human ideologies\-knowledges. 

 

Its dialectical equation has a new, recently revised «arché»-category  

human, initially spoken-only, Languages, on the view that human ideologies\-knowledges begin with naming both experienced “things” and experienced “actions”, not necessarily treated diremptively at first, but, much later, hardening into strictly-dirempt “nouns” versus “verbs”.

 

We solve for the first ‘contra-category’ of this «arché»-category as, initially “primitive”, Arts, including word of art painted onto cave walls, carved into stone outcroppings, carved or molded into figurines, etc.; such art units as a ‘meta-words’ form, an «aufheben» ‘meta-unit-ization’ of spoken word units, since, e.g., one artful picturing is ‘“worth a thousand spoken words’’’.

 

Stating, for our purposes here, only the ‘self-hybrid’ or ‘contra-category’ names/-terms in that, 32-term progression; leaving out the ‘merely-hybrid’, partial & full ‘uni-category’ names/terms, and naming only those knowledge/ideology forms that are fully-manifest and extant today, we have –

Languages --) Arts --) Mythologies --) 

Religions --) Philosophies --) Scientific Knowledges

– and it is only the last knowledge-kind category in the dialectical categorial progression just given, that we are focusing on herein, the “scientific knowledges” category.

 

The progression stated above we see as a dialectical progression of «genos» categories – of «gene».

 

The dialectic that we will explore as the main topic of this blog entry is a dialectic within the “scientific knowledges” «genos»-category.

 

 

The key historical opposition inside the sciences «genos».

 

Ancient, still-philosophical proto-science was more qualitative, more intuitional and speculative, and more merely-observational, without being experimental, vis-à-vis modern science. 

 

Ancient science was less measurement-based, and less data-based, than modern science – by far – even from the proto-scientific emergence of modern knowledge in the form of the field then known as “Natural Philosophy”.

 

That is not to say that ancient Mediterranean science, and especially ancient Alexandrian science, was only qualitative.  Consider the quantitative achievements of Archimedes and Ptolemy, of Eudoxus, Heron and Ctesibius, and, e.g., the Antikythera Mechanism, an astronomical-astrological analogue computer.  Claudius Ptolemy’s geocentric solar system model, in his treatise Almagest – epicycles and all – fit well the then-available data on planetary positions, and the Copernican model’s predictions of those positions was initially no more accurate than the Ptolemaic predictions.

 

Likewise, modern science is not only quantitative, especially in biology and the social sciences, but even in the “Standard Model of Particle Physics”, in that the various “particles” identified in that model differ qualitatively, albeit in terms of quantitatively-measurable “quantum numbers”, etc.

 

But modern science is biased toward quantitative descriptivity, just as ancient science, e.g., that of Aristotle, was biased toward the qualitative – albeit systematic – description of nature.

 

In his 2008 book The Great Equations: Breakthroughs in Science from Pythagoras to Heisenberg, Robert P. Crease coneys a vivid, & somewhat ‘‘‘psychohistorical’’’ sense of this historical opposition between ancient and modern science:

The Greek philosopher Aristotle (384 – 322 BC) was the earliest we know who drew up a systematic account of all kinds of motion or change – he used the same word, kinesis, for both.

Kinesis is so important, he thought, that to understand it is tantamount to understanding nature itself, and he created a framework to include all varieties of kinesis: of animate and inanimate objects, with and without human intervention, in earth and in the heavens.”

He distinguished several kinds of kinesis: the substantial change of a thing being born or dying (fire consuming a log); the quantitative change of a thing growing or shrinking; the transformational change of one property changing into another (a green leaf turning brown); and local motion [M.D.: spatial-locational, change-of-location motion], or something changing its place.”

“Aristotle viewed these changes with biologically trained eyes.  He regarded the world as a kind of cosmic ecosystem that contained different levels of organization.  Motion in this ecosystem is almost never random or chaotic, but a process of passing from one state to another in which something existing only in potential…is underway to being actualized.”

Many levels of organization are built on top of each other –human beings make up a state, organs make up a human being – so that any event us shaped by a complex network of different kinds of causes.” [p.48].

 

Dr. Crease recognizes the ‘‘‘psychohistorical’’’ gulf that separates the typical modern «mentalité» from that of Aristotle –

If today we fund this unjustified, it is a sign of how far we have traveled since Aristotle’s time and how our sight has changed, for his ideas were based on rational argument, logical deduction, and careful observation.” [p. 49].

 

 …it made sense to view nature as a vast ecosystem, comprised of different types of substances acting through different kinds of inner compulsions on other substances, affecting others and being affected in turn,…all essential to the maintenance of the ecosystem with its qualitatively different domains.” [p. 51].

 

Dr. Crease touches on some of the ‘‘‘psychohistorical’’’ causes of the historical chasm separating Aristotle’s life-world experience, and worldview, from our own –

It is difficult for us to see the world as Aristotle did.  Our thoroughly quantitative understanding of motion has become second nature, thanks to familiar concepts like uniform speed and acceleration, to a technologically rich environment containing instruments like digital clocks and speedometers, and to our practical experience with equipment that depends on such concepts and instruments.”

The experience of Aristotle and his contemporaries was much different.  They had neither the experimental instruments nor a mathematical framework for measuring and analyzing motion, and no urgent reason to seek them.” [p. 50].

 

A key ‘psychohistorical cause’ of this chasm, has, in our view, been induced, mostly subliminally, by the historical development of a much more pervasive role in daily life for what Marx called “the exchange-value” – for commodities, money, and industrial and finance capital, and the quantitative «mentalité» that they inculcate – in the modern world compared to its role in the, still more use-value centered, ancient Mediterranean world; a causation well-described in Alfred W. Crosby’s 1997 book entitled The Measure of Reality: Quantification and Western Society, 1250 – 1600.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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¡ENJOY!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Regards,

 

 

 

 

Miguel Detonacciones,

 

Voting Member, Foundation Encyclopedia Dialectica [F.E.D.];

Elected Member, F.E.D. General Council;

Participant, F.E.D. Special Council for Public Liaison;

Officer, F.E.D. Office of Public Liaison.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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