Monday, September 01, 2025

a DIALECTIC: Ancient vs. Modern Ideologies\Knowledges.

 

 


 

 

 

 

 

 

 




a DIALECTIC:

 

Ancient

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Ideologies\Knowledges.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Reader,

 

 

Introduction.  The historical antithesis between ancient – especially ancient Mediterranean – philosophical proto-science, and modern science, even from its inception, as «Philosophiae Naturalis» [cf. Newton], is, we hold, primarily an opposition between modern, biased, one-sidedly ‘quantitativistic’ ideology-afflicted scientific knowledges, and ancient, biased, one-sidedly ‘qualitativistic’ ideology-afflicted scientific knowledges.

 

We see opportunities, given the present crisis in the historical development of ‘‘‘the human phenome’’’, for a dialectical synthesis of these two biased, one-sided versions of scientific knowledge, a combination that would weed-out much of the ideology-affliction of both categories of ‘ideologies\sciences’.

 

Our work is intended to contribute to the rigorous formation of this dialectical synthesis.

 

We name both of the opposing categories, as well as their sought synthesis category, including the epithet  ‘ideologies\sciences’.

 

This is because we do not expect that the battle against the contamination of consensus knowledge with ideological elements can be finally won, even via this synthesis. 

 

We expect that the effort to weed-out ideological adulterations from consensus knowledge will need to be a matter of continuing vigilance, and ongoing immanent critique, even when Terran humanity succeeds in achieving the political-ECONOMIC DEMOCRATIC Successor System to the Capitalist System, albeit we expect that then the mass of such adulteration will diminish. 

 

In the Domain-symbol for this dialectic, D = I\K, we use the “back-slash”, ‘\’, instead of the “forward-slash”, ‘/’, between the words “ideologies” and “knowledges”, because we hold that, as the historical self-development of humanity has proceeded, in the broad sweep of that history, knowledge has become increasingly dominant over ideology, and, if Terran humanity successfully navigates its looming ‘Meta-Darwinian Planetary Fitness Test’, we expect that this trend will continue, and will accelerate.

 

This dialectic, as depicted above, is pictured in ‘Marxian format’ [pictogramic elements are placed lower to register their greater abstractness; elements are placed higher to register their greater ‘thought-concreteness’/complexity/-determinateness].

 

This depiction above focuses on just one category-symbol term in our – recently revised, 32-term – dialectical categorial progression for the extended historical dialectic of Terran human ideologies\-knowledges. 

 

Its dialectical equation has a new, recently revised «arché»-category  

human, initially spoken-only, Languages, on the view that human ideologies\-knowledges begin with naming both experienced “things” and experienced “actions”, not necessarily treated diremptively at first, but, much later, hardening into strictly-dirempt “nouns” versus “verbs”.

 

We solve for the first ‘contra-category’ of this «arché»-category as, initially “primitive”, Arts, including word of art painted onto cave walls, carved into stone outcroppings, carved or molded into figurines, etc.; such art units as a ‘meta-words’ form, an «aufheben» ‘meta-unit-ization’ of spoken word units, since, e.g., one artful picturing is ‘“worth a thousand spoken words’’’.

 

Stating, for our purposes here, only the ‘self-hybrid’ or ‘contra-category’ names/-terms in that, 32-term progression, presented as if a convolute, and not an evolute progression, with only “ditto marks”, '', suggesting at least self-hybrids evoluteness; leaving out the ‘merely-hybrid’, partial & full ‘uni-category’ names/terms, and naming only those knowledge/ideology forms that are fully-manifest and extant today, we have –

Languages --) 

'' + Arts --) 

...'' + Mythologies --) 

...'' + Religions --) 

...'' + Philosophies --) 

...'' + Scientific Knowledges

– and it is only the last knowledge-kind category in the dialectical categorial progression just given, that we are focusing on herein, the “scientific knowledges” category.

 

The progression stated above we see as a dialectical progression of «genos» categories – of «gene».

 

The dialectic that we will explore as the main topic of this blog entry is a dialectic within the “scientific knowledges” «genos»-category.

 

 

The key historical opposition inside the sciences «genos».

 

Ancient, still-philosophical proto-science was more qualitative, more intuitional and speculative, and more merely-observational, without being experimental, vis-à-vis modern science. 

 

Ancient science was less measurement-based, and less data-based, than modern science – by far – even from the proto-scientific emergence of modern knowledge in the form of the field then known as “Natural Philosophy”.

 

That is not to say that ancient Mediterranean science, and especially ancient Alexandrian science, was only qualitative.  Consider the quantitative achievements of Archimedes and Ptolemy, of Eudoxus, Heron and Ctesibius, and, e.g., the ancients capability to construct something such as the Antikythera Mechanism, an astronomical-astrological analogue computer.  Claudius Ptolemy’s geocentric solar system model, in his treatise Almagest – epicycles, equants and all – fit well the then-available data on planetary positions, and the Copernican model’s predictions of those positions was initially no more accurate than the Ptolemaic predictions.

 

Likewise, modern science is not only quantitative, especially in biology and the social sciences, but even in the “Standard Model of Particle Physics”, in that the various “particles” identified in that model differ qualitatively, albeit in terms of quantitatively-measurable “quantum numbers”, etc.

 

But modern science is biased toward quantitative descriptivity, just as ancient science, e.g., that of Aristotle, was biased toward the qualitative – albeit systematic – description of nature.

 

In his 2008 book The Great Equations: Breakthroughs in Science from Pythagoras to Heisenberg, Robert P. Crease coneys a vivid, & somewhat ‘‘‘psychohistorical’’’ sense of this historical opposition between ancient and modern science:

The Greek philosopher Aristotle (384 – 322 BC) was the earliest we know who drew up a systematic account of all kinds of motion or change – he used the same word, kinesis, for both.

Kinesis is so important, he thought, that to understand it is tantamount to understanding nature itself, and he created a framework to include all varieties of kinesis: of animate and inanimate objects, with and without human intervention, in earth and in the heavens.”

He distinguished several kinds of kinesis: the substantial change of a thing being born or dying (fire consuming a log); the quantitative change of a thing growing or shrinking; the transformational change of one property changing into another (a green leaf turning brown); and local motion [M.D.: spatial-locational, change-of-location motion], or something changing its place.”

“Aristotle viewed these changes with biologically trained eyes.  He regarded the world as a kind of cosmic ecosystem that contained different levels of organization.  Motion in this ecosystem is almost never random or chaotic, but a process of passing from one state to another in which something existing only in potential…is underway to being actualized.”

Many levels of organization are built on top of each other –human beings make up a state, organs make up a human being – so that any event us shaped by a complex network of different kinds of causes.” [p.48].

 

Dr. Crease recognizes the ‘‘‘psychohistorical’’’ gulf that separates the typical modern «mentalité» from that of Aristotle –

If today we fund this unjustified, it is a sign of how far we have traveled since Aristotle’s time and how our sight has changed, for his ideas were based on rational argument, logical deduction, and careful observation.” [p. 49].

 

 …it made sense to view nature as a vast ecosystem, comprised of different types of substances acting through different kinds of inner compulsions on other substances, affecting others and being affected in turn,…all essential to the maintenance of the ecosystem with its qualitatively different domains.” [p. 51].

 

Dr. Crease touches on some of the ‘‘‘psychohistorical’’’ causes of the historical chasm separating Aristotle’s life-world experience, and worldview, from our own –

It is difficult for us to see the world as Aristotle did.  Our thoroughly quantitative understanding of motion has become second nature, thanks to familiar concepts like uniform speed and acceleration, to a technologically rich environment containing instruments like digital clocks and speedometers, and to our practical experience with equipment that depends on such concepts and instruments.”

The experience of Aristotle and his contemporaries was much different.  They had neither the experimental instruments nor a mathematical framework for measuring and analyzing motion, and no urgent reason to seek them.” [p. 50].

 

A key ‘psychohistorical cause’ of this chasm, has, in our view, been induced, mostly subliminally, by the historical development of a much more pervasive role in daily life for what Marx called “the exchange-value” – for commodities, money, and industrial and finance capital, and the quantitative «mentalité» that they inculcate – in the modern world compared to its role in the, still more use-value centered, ancient Mediterranean world; a causation well-described in Alfred W. Crosby’s 1997 book entitled The Measure of Reality: Quantification and Western Society, 1250 – 1600.


In that book, Crosby sees Plato and Aristotle as mainly qualitative sages – in contrast to the views he sees as developing in Western society from 1250 C.E.  [pp. 12-13]:

We, who, in W. H. Auden’ words, live in societies “to which the study of that which can be weighed and measured is a consuming love,” have difficulty imagining an alternative to our approach to reality.  We need for purposes of comparison examples of another way of thinking.  The writings of Plato and Aristotle celebrate an un-, an almost antimetrological approach and have te further advantage of being representative of our ancestral mode of thought at its best.  These two men thought more highly of human reason than we do, but they did not believe our five senses capable of accurate measurement of nature.  Thus Plato wrote that when the soul depends on the senses for information, “it is drawn away by the body into the realm of the variable, and loses its way…” [p. 12].


The implied critique, above, of the modern «mentalité» has the major drawback that it presents itself as an external critique, a mere ‘alternativity’ to the modern «mentalité», rather than as an immanent critique, proceeding from the internal difficulties – the self-difficulties’ – of that modern «mentalité».

 

Crosby continues: “…the ancients defined quantificational measurement much more narrowly than we do, and often rejected it for some more broadly applicable technique.  Aristotle, for instance, stated that the mathematician measures dimensions only after he “strips off all the sensible qualities, e.g. weight and lightness, hardness and its contrary, and also heat and cold and other sensible contrarieties.”  Aristotle, “the Philosopher,” as medieval Europe called him, found description and analysis more useful in qualitative terms than in quantitative ones.” [p. 13].

 

Robert P. Crease also coneys a vivid sense of the historical roots of modern science, in the work of Galileo and Newton.

Regarding Galileo: “…he proceeded to investigate by staging experiments with things like swinging pendulums and balls rolling down inclined planes.  This involved treating space and time quite differently from the way Aristotle had.  While Aristotle had treated space as a boundary, Galileo saw it as a container with geometrical properties.  To understand motion, you look at how many units of (Galileo measured it in cubits) an object covered in how many units of time (pulse-beats or water drops).  In the process, Galileo discovered the famous law of motion of a falling body – stated by him as a ratio, though nowadays we always state it as the equation d = at2/2, rewriting Galileo in our terms… .  This was the first true mathematical law of nature, the first piece of science to be written in the same way F = ma would be.” [pp. 57-58].

 

Regarding Newton: “Newton had learned  much from Galileo and other precursors, but developed a generalized and truly quantitative conception of force both continuous and instantaneous, relating it to quantitative changes in the motion of bodies.  In the Principia [M.D.: Newton’s monumental treatise entitled, in Latin, «Philosophiae Naturalis Principia Mathematica», in English, Mathematical Principles of Natural Philosophy], changes in motion are not explained by what is inside them, but only by the forces that befall them from without.” [p. 59].

 

The significance of Newton’s new view was momentous: “It changed the ontology of nature – the way we conceive the most basic units of explanation of the reality we see.   Most of Newton’s contemporaries conceived of these units as the bodies themselves, which affected other bodies through various mechanisms that brought about different kinds of changes.  Newton transformed that, asserting that explanations of motion had to be in terms of the forces that changed the motion of a mass.  The three basic terms in the ontology of motion were now force, mass (what resisted force), and acceleration (change in motion).  And each of these was quantitative, measurable.” [p. 59].

 

Newton’s new worldview far surpassed that of Galileo in systematicity and internal coherence:

 “In the Principia, Newton has in effect expanded Galileo’s thought experiment of an infinite plane without resistances, and produced a complete and abstract world-stage. … .   Galileo only glimpsed this stage from afar.  Newton’s stage is spare, but therein lies its beauty and effectiveness.  Nature is not to be looked at, as Aristotle had, as a cosmic ecosystem, in which qualitatively different kinds of things act in qualitatively different kinds of ways in qualitatively different domains.  It is more like a cosmic billiard table, in which all space is alike, all directions are comparable, all events are motions, and in all changes of motion the same basic kinds of things exert the same basic kinds of forces.  In this world, movement involves change in space, not attainment, actualization, or intensification of being.” [p. 62].

 

But Newton’s new worldview also created a strange new, hyper-abstract world picture – one estranged from the sensuous reality of immediate human experience:

 “This is how F = ma can be both a definition and an empirically discoverable fact.  It is a definition in so far as, when connected with our world via the right concepts, assumptions, and measurement techniques, it states a quantitative relationship between values found in a laboratory situation.  Theories become the vehicles by which to go back and forth between the world-stage and our own, between its ideal[-ized – M.D.] values and the real values of our world.  To non-scientists, the abstract world might seem strange, something arbitrary and imposed upon nature, a world of fiction[s – M.D.] – an effective fiction, perhaps, but an invention nonetheless.  To scientists, who have been trained to connect this abstract world with our own through concepts, procedures, and measurement practices, the temptation is just the opposite.  They can move so confidently back and forth that they can forget how abstract this world-stage is – as if it were not an invented part of the world they live in.” [p. 63].

 

The Newtonian paradigm, which reduces the bodies of, e.g., planets, to infinitesimal, 0-dimensional, volume-less mathematical points, that somehow nevertheless have mass – “mass-points” –falsely, infinitely-erroneously, predicts infinite forces when a pair of such “planet points” collide, so that 0 distance separates their two “mass-points”.  The Newton gravity equations have never yet been solved in closed, analytical form, for even three such gravitationally-interacting point “bodies”.  These are immanent failures of the Newtonian paradigm, and grounds for its immanent critique. 


Unfortunately, even Einstein’s General Theory of Relativity, and the “Standard Model of Particle Physics”, still treat gravitating bodies and “particle”-bodies, as ‘world-points’ and “world-lines”, or as “point particles”, respectively, with many false infinities arising resultantly, even when those fallacious infinities can be “renormalized”.

 

In summary: 

[Newton] is our Columbus, Voltaire wrote in 1732, “he led us to a new world.”  But it is a strange world.  It is not found in our own like a concealed continent.  Nor is it revealed by instruments, the way tiny worlds are seen in microscopes, or distant and gigantic ones in telescopes.  Newton’s strange world was found in our world – but it is not our world, either, nor one that we could live in.  We humans, even the scientists among us, inhabit what philosophers call the “lived world”, amid designs, desires, and purposes: we live in an Aristotelian world.  The world Newton discovered is an abstract one that appears by changing what we look at and how we look at it.  It’s a fishbowl-like world, seen from the outside, closed off from our own, [M.D.: and yet] whose events disclose to us much about our world.” [p. 64]. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 



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Miguel Detonacciones,

 

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Elected Member, F.E.D. General Council;

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